Beckie 2208 Scam

[GrrizzlyBear]

So, someone on that other SP forum, new to this hobby posts the following:

Hi gentlemen,

I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to partake? You have to go through a online screening process so I'm a bit redundant. If anyone could let me know that would be great.

Cheers guys

(^ I think he meant reluctant?)

Then another, seemingly more seasoned hobbyist responds with this:

Looks like the scam to get your credit card number for a webcam site or soemthing like that... dont waste ur time

The OP didn't seem too convinced from what I can see based on his response:

Thats what I was thinking but those pictures are like damn. google didn't find nothing either

I spent hardly 5 minutes looking into it and responded with this:

If a provider is making you pay online for some kind of "online screening process" before she will ever consider seeing you it's not really worth it to begin with.

You're right that Google doesn't find anything on those images, but Tineye does and it matches ads in at least this many places:

Fayetteville, Arkansas
La Salle County, Illinois
Lafayette, Indiana
Sioux City, Iowa
Finger Lakes, New York
Binghamton, New York
Columbia/Jeff City, Missouri

This is a clear scam perpetrated by Streamray, Inc/Various, Inc. because the place "she" wants you to give money to is one of those cam sites linking back those "corporations". They're the same people behind Adult Friend Finder among many other similar adult sites. They're known to place ads on Backpage to lure in unsuspecting people such as yourself. Don't ever fall for this. No reasonable provider will ask you to take part in this kind of shady BS.

Fortunately, that seemed to be enough to convince and educate the OP.

I look at ads anywhere and can usually tell right away when the pics are fake or it's looking like a scam. Even if it doesn't and I need to take it step further and actually contact the SP, the first few responses reveal a lot and it then becomes obvious to me things are not legit.

I wanted to bring this kind of thing to the attention of others here in the event it helps anyone navigate the minefield that is BP. What is obvious to me may not be obvious to others so I thought I'd share. Let's call this one part of my new series of posts I'm calling "Common Sense, or not". They're posts that will point out something obvious to most, but not to some.

Also, why anyone in London needs to see an SP who doesn't advertise on London Sugar is beyond me. As far as I'm concerned, we've already got the best of the best right here and plenty of variety to boot. But if you're going to browse BP then at least be smart about it.

[JeffD]

With no disrespect intended Noob, you might want to try to gain some credibility on this board other than playing word games to pad a post count before you want to come across as trying to teach the horny masses here how to do what many have been doing for years. I get it, you aren't a London guy, so perhaps your relevant hobbying is limited, however you have made comments about London ladies, so apparently you do come here on some kind of regular basis.

Yes we are fortunate in London to have a board such as this. Becoming a "pink" on that other board simply involves sending in your money, and any scam artist or bait and switch operation can do it and have bad reviews removed and claim they are legit because they are "pink". On this site, word spreads fast and Gerald doesn't tolerate bullshit just to make cash like the other guy does. However, many advertisers are on this board because they were on BP before and were pointed in this direction by clients. There are also advertisers on BP that are former advertisers here who decided not to stay here for their own reasons, but are still very legit providers. So I don't really buy the statement that guys here don't need to see providers who don't advertise here.

[Gerald]

Please stop posting links to BP.
Regardless of them being broken or not, it's still a link and you will be removed from this forum if you continue to do it.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by JeffD

and have bad reviews removed and claim they are legit because they are "pink".

Seriously? lol
I didn't know that. My advertisers don't have that option, I only give them the option of advertising or not advertising. I've had a few in the past freak out when they got bad reviews, but I just tell them "Don't worry about it, if you provide a good service the members here will defend you and will understand the review was more about a bad client, than a bad provider".
Some of my advertisers have actually gotten MORE business from bad reviews simply from others yelling "Bullshit!". lol
I also used to have a "No review" policy available on request, following the lead of other boards. I dropped that a very long time ago as I believe, "If you don't want reviews, then get a different job".
I don't see it as punishing my advertisers. Allowing bad reviews holds my advertisers and this website to a higher standard. It allows clients to trust in who they find here giving the current advertisers of this website a "Gold Star of Excellence".
I have had questionable advertisers here, but they don't last long. You guys are the filter I use to ensure that only the best providers become London Sugar Ladies.
Not the best policy for my wallet, but fuck it, I prefer quality over quantity.

[MovieGuy4]

I agree Gerald. Just wanted to add a "Keep up the good work and Thanks!"

[GrrizzlyBear]

Originally Posted by JeffD

With no disrespect intended Noob, you might want to try to gain some credibility on this board other than playing word games to pad a post count before you want to come across as trying to teach the horny masses here how to do what many have been doing for years. I get it, you aren't a London guy, so perhaps your relevant hobbying is limited, however you have made comments about London ladies, so apparently you do come here on some kind of regular basis.

Yes we are fortunate in London to have a board such as this. Becoming a "pink" on that other board simply involves sending in your money, and any scam artist or bait and switch operation can do it and have bad reviews removed and claim they are legit because they are "pink". On this site, word spreads fast and Gerald doesn't tolerate bullshit just to make cash like the other guy does. However, many advertisers are on this board because they were on BP before and were pointed in this direction by clients. There are also advertisers on BP that are former advertisers here who decided not to stay here for their own reasons, but are still very legit providers. So I don't really buy the statement that guys here don't need to see providers who don't advertise here.

While I appreciate the advice, are you saying that I simply shouldn't share any knowledge I might have because I don't have credibility? I can post reviews of everyone I've seen so far (save for those who explicitly say not to) and I'll never gain the amount you have, sure enough, so take what I have to say or leave it. What I posted here wasn't meant for someone as distinguished as you, good sir.

The point behind playing word games on this forum is for anything but to "pad my post count" lol. It's simply for the purpose of having fun. If you look at someone's post count to determine if what they have to say can be trusted or not, you're doing it wrong. I don't claim to be some sage hobbyist with all the knowledge under the sun. You can take the advice of this "Noob" or don't. I am well aware that many have been doing this for years, but that won't stop me from sharing what I know if it even only ever helps a single "noob" like most of us were one day.

I do get what you're saying, though, so I'll post some reviews I guess. Surely that's get me some credibility, but I'll always be "Noob"Cake ;)

I hobby almost exclusively in London. I just so happen to live nowhere near London. I don't like navigating BP no matter what city it's in, so I stick to the ladies who advertise on here and the success rate of good encounters is near 100% so why mess with what works, I say. I don't doubt there are legitimate providers on BP in London who are not on this site. I was merely commenting on the quality of providers on this site being plenty all on its own. I wasn't bashing providers who don't advertise on here whatsoever. It's just too bad that BP is a minefield of bullshit even if there are diamonds hidden throughout. It's the wading through bullshit I don't care to bother with. This is why I like London Sugar so much and why I would praise it so.

Originally Posted by Gerald

Please stop posting links to BP.
Regardless of them being broken or not, it's still a link and you will be removed from this forum if you continue to do it.

Roger that, Gerald. The links automatically get broken when I post them and I thought that would be adequate to cancel out someone's ability to go to that link. That's why I just left it as is to let your system do its thing. But no hint of a link, you say? Okay then. Loud and clear.

[JeffD]

Originally Posted by NoobCake

While I appreciate the advice, are you saying that I simply shouldn't share any knowledge I might have because I don't have credibility? I can post reviews of everyone I've seen so far (save for those who explicitly say not to) and I'll never gain the amount you have, sure enough, so take what I have to say or leave it. What I posted here wasn't meant for someone as distinguished as you, good sir.

No, I'm not saying you shouldn't post things you know. It would be a nice change for sure. I'm saying your first post came across as lecturing. Kind of like your post the other day regarding confusion over a certain lady's apartment. No, it's not the amount of posts. There are long term members here who have very few posts but you take into consideration what they have to say because of the content of those posts. I spent hardly 5 minutes scrolling through your past posts, and only a very few actually have anything to do with the hobby. So it strikes me as a tad soon to be claiming to be the guru of BP, even if you are very knowledgeable about it. Funny though that you have gained so much knowledge about BP ads when LS advertisers are all you need. But anyway, you have good posts on the other board, I look forward to your positive contribution here.

Regarding the link thing, how you titled the thread is perfect, that is how Gerald would like non-advertisers referred to in threads as well (name and last 4 digits of number).

[GrrizzlyBear]

Originally Posted by JeffD

No, I'm not saying you shouldn't post things you know. It would be a nice change for sure. I'm saying your first post came across as lecturing. Kind of like your post the other day regarding confusion over a certain lady's apartment. No, it's not the amount of posts. There are long term members here who have very few posts but you take into consideration what they have to say because of the content of those posts. I spent hardly 5 minutes scrolling through your past posts, and only a very few actually have anything to do with the hobby. So it strikes me as a tad soon to be claiming to be the guru of BP, even if you are very knowledgeable about it. Funny though that you have gained so much knowledge about BP ads when LS advertisers are all you need. But anyway, you have good posts on the other board, I look forward to your positive contribution here.

Sure the tone of what I write may only be appreciated coming from someone with quality posts on the same forum to back up what they're saying. I'm not trying to be pretentious and I'm definitely not claiming to be the guru of BP lol. I have spent plenty of time doing the whole BP thing before discovering the other forum or even London Sugar and my career is spent on the Internet so I've seen my fair share of online scams and related things to somewhat know a thing or two about what to look for in this context. It's only because I had spent the time researching BP ads time after time that I now want to pretty much 'settle' with a site like London Sugar. I'm not one to want to see a different provider every week and I'm fricken lazy, so I appreciate not needing to have to do nearly as much work lol.

Of course anything I've done in this hobby is all relative. My entire time in it is but a tiny fraction of the time many others have been doing it. I wouldn't disrespect those of you whom have done this for many times longer by claiming I know more, because I know I don't.

I can say that since discovering this site, I have spent all of my time reading and never posting only to have that shift in the last several months to 90% reading and most of the the rest of the time wracking my brain to come up with a new word for a few forum word games. In contrast, my time spent on the other board has been nearly the exact opposite. No fun and games there, except the ridiculous drama is fun to watch occasionally. Lack of quality posts on here is exactly what I'm trying to change. Just so far it's been mostly about being the Captain of the HMS Obvious.

[Blues]

Originally Posted by NoobCake

Sure the tone of what I write may only be appreciated coming from someone with quality posts on the same forum to back up what they're saying. I'm not trying to be pretentious and I'm definitely not claiming to be the guru of BP lol. I have spent plenty of time doing the whole BP thing before discovering the other forum or even London Sugar and my career is spent on the Internet so I've seen my fair share of online scams and related things to somewhat know a thing or two about what to look for in this context. It's only because I had spent the time researching BP ads time after time that I now want to pretty much 'settle' with a site like London Sugar. I'm not one to want to see a different provider every week and I'm fricken lazy, so I appreciate not needing to have to do nearly as much work lol.

Of course anything I've done in this hobby is all relative. My entire time in it is but a tiny fraction of the time many others have been doing it. I wouldn't disrespect those of you whom have done this for many times longer by claiming I know more, because I know I don't.

I can say that since discovering this site, I have spent all of my time reading and never posting only to have that shift in the last several months to 90% reading and most of the the rest of the time wracking my brain to come up with a new word for a few forum word games. In contrast, my time spent on the other board has been nearly the exact opposite. No fun and games there, except the ridiculous drama is fun to watch occasionally. Lack of quality posts on here is exactly what I'm trying to change. Just so far it's been mostly about being the Captain of the HMS Obvious.

Eloquently put. I spent a year and a half on this board posting as much as I could supporting the ladies I visited and interacting with members having some fun. I know some of the things I posted annoyed more than a few people but I'm sure it made for a good read. I'm a bit of a goof that way. Now that I'm retired from the hobby, the only reason I come back to the board is to check on what's happening and have a chuckle or two. It's always entertaining to see things get shook up. More importantly, to me anyway, when I did hobby, I saw the ladies from LS exclusively. I was never a toftt kinda guy and I don't even think I hobbied in the true sense of the word. I was lonely and I spent some very nice moments with ladies who for a short period of time, made me feel wonderful. I'm not lonely anymore, therefore I don't hobby. That's just me. Keep the board going guys. Have fun and keep shakin shit up.

Oh, and if I should have used "shaken up" instead of shook up, I would appreciate anyone letting me know the error of my ways.

Blues

[Tipper]

JeffD, you're not giving enough credit to someone who is helping us out. Common sense is an oxymoron.
Noob, in your posts about "common sense, or not", can you please briefly mention that if you go to the wrong building, knock on the wrong door, and fuck the wrong woman, don't leave the wrong donation. When you leave, don't put the wrong shoes on the wrong feet, and please don't get in the wrong car and drive the wrong way down a one way street.


Just a few helpful tidbits of info for those dont' want anything to go wrong.


Tipper