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petraluxurygfe 07-06-2024 12:10 PM

Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostas (Post 223192)
I saw her and let me tell u she is a gorgeous looking lady and yes she is the lady in the pics but I find her to be even better looking in person she is a very sweet, kind and friendly and funny as well and she has a very cute smile my time with her was amazing and I will definitely see her again She is a sweetheart.

Amazing, so glad to hear this!! 💗

There is a dedicated review section though to make it easier to find reviews xo.

https://www.londonsugar.com/forums/f...splay.php?f=91

Gerald 07-06-2024 07:58 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petraluxurygfe (Post 223194)
Amazing, so glad to hear this!! ��

There is a dedicated review section though to make it easier to find reviews xo.

https://www.londonsugar.com/forums/f...splay.php?f=91


Nope, he posted in the correct forum. This is were all reviews are posted by members.
That section you linked to is an archived review section for paid advertisers and I am the only one who can copy reviews into it. It's part of the service Gold and Platinum advertisers get.

petraluxurygfe 07-07-2024 04:54 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 223203)
Nope, he posted in the correct forum. This is were all reviews are posted by members.
That section you linked to is an archived review section for paid advertisers and I am the only one who can copy reviews into it. It's part of the service Gold and Platinum advertisers get.

Ahh I see.
Mildly confusing but makes sense.

JeffD 07-08-2024 08:29 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petraluxurygfe (Post 223213)
Ahh I see.
Mildly confusing but makes sense.

I don't see it being confusing at all. This forum is for all reviews, whether they advertise on this board or not, and Gerald moves reviews of paying advertisers to a separate forum special for them (such as a thread there for you).

I've also been told by a few ladies that it's considered bad form for an SP to comment on a thread about a different lady as it is seen as jumping into the good words spoken about them and trying to make it about yourself (a "look at me" type of thing).

petraluxurygfe 07-15-2024 04:47 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffD (Post 223226)
I don't see it being confusing at all. This forum is for all reviews, whether they advertise on this board or not, and Gerald moves reviews of paying advertisers to a separate forum special for them (such as a thread there for you).

I've also been told by a few ladies that it's considered bad form for an SP to comment on a thread about a different lady as it is seen as jumping into the good words spoken about them and trying to make it about yourself (a "look at me" type of thing).

LOL

I was trying to be kind.
All good I won't be participating here any further.

JeffD 07-15-2024 09:26 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petraluxurygfe (Post 223287)
LOL

I was trying to be kind.
All good I won't be participating here any further.

Sounds a bit immature, but whatever.

fever40 07-16-2024 06:12 AM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffD (Post 223289)
Sounds a bit immature, but whatever.


Which is it?

Bad form for her to participate in the forum, or immature for her not to participate?

Wheelz 07-16-2024 07:02 AM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fever40 (Post 223294)
Which is it?

Bad form for her to participate in the forum, or immature for her not to participate?

Agreed. It's a complete no-win situation. I wouldn't respond either if I was in that boat.

It's been a hot minute since I've seen members on this board be so harsh to a newer arrival, especially an advertiser.

One of the reasons I came here when I first started hobbying years ago is that it was decidely less toxic than other places. Sad to see that the days of users having fun, supporting each other (advertisers and enthusiasts alike) and keeping review threads civil and constructive seems to be dwindling.

Gerald 07-16-2024 07:24 AM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelz (Post 223295)
It's been a hot minute since I've seen members on this board be so harsh to a newer arrival, especially an advertiser.


Well, it seems it was very affective in getting her off the website. :odd:
Probably doesn't feel like an issue for those who had no intentions of booking her, but is an issue if it scares off other potential advertisers.

Wheelz 07-16-2024 07:39 AM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 223296)
Well, it seems it was very affective in getting her off the website. :odd:
Probably doesn't feel like an issue for those who had no intentions of booking her, but is an issue if it scares off other potential advertisers.

That's what I'm sayin'!

I would be discouraged if I were a potential paying advertiser after seeing the last few threads.

Not only that, I feel bad for Zoey that a thread with her in the title and with a positive review goes significantly off-track.

The same thing happened to Saphira Rose a week or so ago, though I notice that thread was edited and closed to clean things up.

If users are concered about scams, I believe there is a whole section for that, right?

Puff n' Stuff 07-16-2024 07:39 AM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Were some posts deleted? I don't see how Miss Petra was attacked so savagely. And just as I was warming up to the idea of going double the typical rate. Ironically her and says "thank you for the warm welcome", I hope she finds an accepting community.

Wheelz 07-16-2024 07:50 AM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Puff n' Stuff (Post 223298)
Were some posts deleted? I don't see how Miss Petra was attacked so savagely. And just as I was warming up to the idea of going double the typical rate. Ironically her and says "thank you for the warm welcome", I hope she finds an accepting community.

Saphira Rose's first review thread was about 3 pages long with exchanges back and forth. For the sake of keeping things focused as a review, Gerald (or another admin if there is one) cleaned up the thread.

I might suggest doing the same here actually, to be fair to Zoey. :)

People have every right to complain/be worried about higher rates, if you want to talk about it start a thread.

Tipper 07-16-2024 09:34 AM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelz (Post 223297)
If users are concered about scams, I believe there is a whole section for that, right?

I didn’t see any concern about her being a scam.

Wheelz 07-16-2024 01:14 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
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Originally Posted by Tipper (Post 223302)
I didn’t see any concern about her being a scam.

Not directly no. But the undertones were definitely there. Between questioning pricing structures and wondering whether Lyla was a legit forum simply cause it's not Ontario based, people were definitely taking shots at her credibility, at least in my view.

All I'm asking is for keeping threads focused, and also to try to encourage an online community's growth. :)

Kostas 07-16-2024 01:23 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelz (Post 223306)
Not directly no. But the undertones were definitely there. Between questioning pricing structures and wondering whether Lyla was a legit forum simply cause it's not Ontario based, people were definitely taking shots at her credibility, at least in my view.

All I'm asking is for keeping threads focused, and also to try to encourage an online community's growth. :)

I for one wasn't taking shots at her she seems like a nice lady Petra

Wheelz 07-16-2024 01:48 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostas (Post 223307)
I for one wasn't taking shots at her she seems like a nice lady Petra

I posted a short review on Petra not long ago. I've found her to be rather delightful.

I've been tempted to book with Zoey too but life has gotten in the way in recent weeks lol Hopefully soon though! :)

Tipper 07-16-2024 02:17 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelz (Post 223306)
Not directly no. But the undertones were definitely there. Between questioning pricing structures and wondering whether Lyla was a legit forum simply cause it's not Ontario based, people were definitely taking shots at her credibility, at least in my view.

All I'm asking is for keeping threads focused, and also to try to encourage an online community's growth. :)

I would be wary of any forum I wasn’t familiar with (no matter where it’s based) just as I would be wary of any feedback on this forum from someone I wasn’t familiar with.
As far as price, I absolutely agree that the ladies should set a price point that they are comfortable with. By the same token, charging almost double the standard rate will generate crazy questions such as “Why”. This can be asked respectfully. I also think those questions should be welcomed as an opportunity for self promotion.

JeffD 07-16-2024 05:20 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fever40 (Post 223294)
Which is it?

Bad form for her to participate in the forum, or immature for her not to participate?

Bad form for her to go onto a thread not about her and try to tell established members how to post a review and then saying it's confusing and then not accepting the explanations of why it wasn't really confusing. Also have seen other longer term advertisers get in shit for posting in reviews not about them. And yes, immature for leaving in an apparent huff over being criticized.

fever40 07-17-2024 11:05 AM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
If I was in her shoes I would have done the same.

JNance 07-17-2024 11:20 AM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffD (Post 223313)
Bad form for her to go onto a thread not about her and try to tell established members how to post a review and then saying it's confusing and then not accepting the explanations of why it wasn't really confusing. Also have seen other longer term advertisers get in shit for posting in reviews not about them. And yes, immature for leaving in an apparent huff over being criticized.

Bad form ? She was just trying to help, she was incorrect in her info, but she wasn’t trying to hijack the thread or make it about herself….

Wheelz 07-17-2024 05:05 PM

Re: Zoey Noel review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fever40 (Post 223322)
If I was in her shoes I would have done the same.

1000%

Quote:

Originally Posted by JNance (Post 223323)
Bad form ? She was just trying to help, she was incorrect in her info, but she wasn’t trying to hijack the thread or make it about herself….

Agreed. Accusing a new user (whether advertiser or non-advertiser) of bad form when they are still learning to navigate a site they've just started using is completely unfair. Reminds me of when I started using BBS way back in the dial-up days. Newbies would get crapped on all the time for no reason. *sigh* :P

Hope LS can be more welcoming the next time we have someone new.

Tipper 07-18-2024 08:03 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
I saw no accusation. How come someone who is new is ok to correct board members on where and what they are posting, yet long time board members aren’t allowed to correct her on where and what she posts. People are reading things into statements that aren’t there. No mention of a scam but “there are undertones”. Bullshit. Questions ( including from myself ) about rates are not unfair. I was curious as to why her rates are so high. No criticism. Just questioning. Whether you can afford it or not, or want to pay it or not, if you say you didn’t note her rate was higher you’re a liar.
The ladies on this board are generally great ladies and I think very well treated. By the same group of disrespectful jerks mentioned in her rant on Twitter. That’s strange. I will admit, I’m aging. Perhaps bitter. I know SOMEBODY involved in this whole soap opera is very bitter and clearly vindictive. In a very saintly way I guess.
It’s a review and discussion board. It’s been around for years and I’m sure there are older members set in their ways. There are “older” (and I dint mean that in a negative way) providers on this board. Probably a good cross section demographically of both members and advertisers. Someone asked if the harsh posts were deleted. No they weren’t. The most heavy handed person in this whole affair is gone to get quite honest.
As I said, it’s a review and discussion board. Let’s save Kumbaya for the end of the prayer meetings.

fever40 07-18-2024 10:44 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
the long and the short of it is... she is a paid advertiser who is new to the board. you do not know them and they do not know you. conduct yourself accordingly.

Wheelz 07-18-2024 10:59 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipper (Post 223336)
I saw no accusation. How come someone who is new is ok to correct board members on where and what they are posting, yet long time board members aren’t allowed to correct her on where and what she posts. People are reading things into statements that aren’t there. No mention of a scam but “there are undertones”. Bullshit. Questions ( including from myself ) about rates are not unfair. I was curious as to why her rates are so high. No criticism. Just questioning. Whether you can afford it or not, or want to pay it or not, if you say you didn’t note her rate was higher you’re a liar.
The ladies on this board are generally great ladies and I think very well treated. By the same group of disrespectful jerks mentioned in her rant on Twitter. That’s strange. I will admit, I’m aging. Perhaps bitter. I know SOMEBODY involved in this whole soap opera is very bitter and clearly vindictive. In a very saintly way I guess.
It’s a review and discussion board. It’s been around for years and I’m sure there are older members set in their ways. There are “older” (and I dint mean that in a negative way) providers on this board. Probably a good cross section demographically of both members and advertisers. Someone asked if the harsh posts were deleted. No they weren’t. The most heavy handed person in this whole affair is gone to get quite honest.
As I said, it’s a review and discussion board. Let’s save Kumbaya for the end of the prayer meetings.

I would argue that questions about rate are best handled in text exchanges with the individual provider. Public forum threads or jokes about cost are indeed unfair and--to use your phrasing-- in bad form.

Tipper 07-18-2024 12:11 PM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
I missed the jokes- maybe they were underlying tone jokes. I also missed “in bad form” being my phrasing. But no worries. On a review board I have absolutely no problem with voicing my opinion on price if done respectfully, price is part of the whole package. That’s the way the world works. Providers also have every right to refute my opinion if they choose. I’m happy you saw her and that for you she was worth double what people pay for others. Your experience gave her some more credibility in London.

Wheelz 07-18-2024 12:27 PM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipper (Post 223341)
I missed the jokes- maybe they were underlying tone jokes. I also missed “in bad form” being my phrasing. But no worries. On a review board I have absolutely no problem with voicing my opinion on price if done respectfully, price is part of the whole package. That’s the way the world works. Providers also have every right to refute my opinion if they choose. I’m happy you saw her and that for you she was worth double what people pay for others. Your experience gave her some more credibility in London.

My issue is not so much for Petra individually. She is a big girl and can handle herself.

As for jokes, I present exhibit A from Petra's first review thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puff n' Stuff (Post 222928)
I might be able to book but first I'll need a meetting with my financial planner. Considering going the reverse mortgage route.

That was followed up by your comment:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipper (Post 222930)
I guess being a 500/hr newcomer without any sort of confirmation makes me wonder what exactly makes her a nice addition to the London scene.

You didn't make the joke, but the ensuing discussion(s) around price seemed to reinforce/implictly endorse the joke itself.

What I've been trying to voice is that for ppl (particularly advertisers on the forum) making jokes about having to take a loan or saying that they are pricing themselves out of the market is disrespectful and doesn't encourage constructive conversation.

Tipper 07-18-2024 01:22 PM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Here’s a cool idea. Read my words without putting in your implicit or underlying crap in there. I can’t control what others write. Nowhere did I say she was pricing herself out of the market. To be honest, my opinion is that for myself no provider would be worth that much money, but that’s more due to my inadequacies or shortcomings than anything else. But others may be ok with that price point.

Puff n' Stuff 07-19-2024 07:47 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Woah there don't get your Wheels in a spin, maybe you and the provider in question need to lighten up. How do you know I wasn't serious? Ive already contacted Tom Selleck about the reverse mortgage. Hmpf! I'm insulted! maybe I'll take my over analyzed and pointlessly focused on completely harmless jokes somewhere else, ok Karen?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelz (Post 223343)
My issue is not so much for Petra individually. She is a big girl and can handle herself.

As for jokes, I present exhibit A from Petra's first review thread.



That was followed up by your comment:



You didn't make the joke, but the ensuing discussion(s) around price seemed to reinforce/implictly endorse the joke itself.

What I've been trying to voice is that for ppl (particularly advertisers on the forum) making jokes about having to take a loan or saying that they are pricing themselves out of the market is disrespectful and doesn't encourage constructive conversation.


Gerald 07-19-2024 09:03 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Lets try and keep the insults out of the discussion please.
I don't like over moderating as I believe people are entitled to their opinions.

I see nothing wrong with commenting that $500/hour seems like a crazy amount of money for a provider to charge as it's WAY over the average and we know price does not equal service. I'm sure there are ladies asking $250 who provide a service just as good.
However, I also know guys will pay that $500 (local sugar daddies pay a lot more than that) so if a provider can make that happen then she's running a good business.
I think the Keg charges a crazy amount for a steak dinner, but I doubt they care what I think. It's not like they don't have customers. Doesn't mean I can't complain about it to the Keg or to others. I also complain about the price of gas, the weather and the grocery store running out of raisin bread.

This is a discussion board. We talk about shit. Sometimes right, sometimes wrong. When you join the forum, you have the option to voice your opinions or not. If you get into battles with other members, maybe it's time to step back and consider, maybe you are feeding gas into the burning flame.
I don't expect every advertiser to love this site, but I have some really long term advertisers perfectly content with being here and recommending the site to others.

MrTom 07-19-2024 10:50 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
This thread makes me miss the memes Blake and Dylan would post. No complaints about those advertisers posting.

Wheelz 07-19-2024 02:33 PM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTom (Post 223363)
This thread makes me miss the memes Blake and Dylan would post. No complaints about those advertisers posting.


Me too brother, me too! :)

JeffD 07-19-2024 04:47 PM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
I'm sure she is happy to have saved the money and still be the topic of conversation in 2 threads (maybe the other one should be merged into this one as well?). I did get a chuckle out of the twitter conversation someone mentioned though lol. One thing she sure is a pro at is dragging the white knights out for her.

Geturdune 07-19-2024 09:10 PM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffD (Post 223367)
I'm sure she is happy to have saved the money and still be the topic of conversation in 2 threads (maybe the other one should be merged into this one as well?). I did get a chuckle out of the twitter conversation someone mentioned though lol. One thing she sure is a pro at is dragging the white knights out for her.


FUCK ...... you really need to go get fucked or something and let it go man.
If you can't afford the talent then don't mouth off about them.We have great talent already on this board and we should be welcoming more ladies not caring what the price of admission cost. With you keeping this going will make Gerald's business dwindle, but hopefully not. Let it go !!!

Gerald 07-19-2024 09:54 PM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geturdune (Post 223368)
FUCK ...... you really need to go get fucked or something and let it go man.
If you can't afford the talent then don't mouth off about them.We have great talent already on this board and we should be welcoming more ladies not caring what the price of admission cost. With you keeping this going will make Gerald's business dwindle, but hopefully not. Let it go !!!

Easy there big fella, no reason to get heated.
As for getting fucked, I think that applies to most people.
More fucking, less fighting makes the world a better place. :smile:

Wheelz 07-19-2024 10:29 PM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geturdune (Post 223368)
FUCK ...... you really need to go get fucked or something and let it go man.
If you can't afford the talent then don't mouth off about them.We have great talent already on this board and we should be welcoming more ladies not caring what the price of admission cost. With you keeping this going will make Gerald's business dwindle, but hopefully not. Let it go !!!

Amen brother! :) My hope in this thread was never about Petra herself....she's already left. It's about building up the community here at LS both in terms of potential advertisers and active civy-members :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 223369)
More fucking, less fighting makes the world a better place. :smile:

One can only hope man. :)

Geturdune 07-20-2024 06:23 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
[QUOTE=Wheelz;223370]Amen brother! :) My hope in this thread was never about Petra herself....she's already left. It's about building up the community here at LS both in terms of potential advertisers and active civy-members :)


My point exactly !!! :clankmug::righton:

Puff n' Stuff 07-20-2024 07:48 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geturdune (Post 223371)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelz (Post 223370)
Amen brother! :) My hope in this thread was never about Petra herself....she's already left. It's about building up the community here at LS both in terms of potential advertisers and active civy-members :)


My point exactly !!! :clankmug::righton:


If you guys are so concerned maybe YOU should help out the board and start advertising

Gerald 07-20-2024 08:33 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Puff n' Stuff (Post 223372)
If you guys are so concerned maybe YOU should help out the board and start advertising

Sir, I like the way you think. :money:

JeffD 07-20-2024 09:34 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geturdune (Post 223368)
FUCK ...... you really need to go get fucked or something and let it go man.
If you can't afford the talent then don't mouth off about them.We have great talent already on this board and we should be welcoming more ladies not caring what the price of admission cost. With you keeping this going will make Gerald's business dwindle, but hopefully not. Let it go !!!

Where did I ever comment on her rates? My comment was about her lecturing established people on how the board works. Maybe read a bit before throwing on the white suit.

Susan 07-20-2024 10:04 AM

Re: Petra Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 223373)
Sir, I like the way you think. :money:

How much for advertising for bored members?


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