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Went to go for a massage at AdultEA with one of the new ladies as my usual provider, Erica was not on the schedule for the week. Should have never done so and stayed with a tried and true provider. So what happened to make the visit a proverbial s show?

Well to start I called and set-up an appointment with Channel with the phone being answered by Linda. Was given an appointment based on her availability. When I arrived on time only Linda was at the front and she mentioned that Channel wasn't free currently and that I should wait in my car for 10 minutes. I do so figuring it's okay as sometimes sessions can go overtime. When I went back in Channel was there but mentioned that she had been double booked and wasn't available anymore, after also saying that she did so as I was late. Since she wasn't available I decided to go home and count my losses.

Welp when I got home I got an urge to try again for later, so I called again and Linda scheduled me another appointment with Channel. When I got there Channel mentioned that she was just about to go home and thus couldn't do my appointment but her friend Jayda was available. I said screw it I am already here, why not. During my session Jayda mentioned that additional flavors of coffee could be added on. She told me her prices (definitely way to high btw) and I decided on one of them. The coffee was acceptable, not the best not the worst. When I went to pay for the additional flavor she mentioned that I also had to pay the standard coffee price as well, which is very unusual as all the previous coffees I have ever gotten there, quoted me for the coffee and flavor add-on all together rather than seperate. Furthermore when I left Channel was still there so she didn't go home as mentioned!

Thus ends my night with disappointment in the new staff, should have just waited for Erica to come back rather than experiencing three strikes with Channel and Jayda. Would definitely not recommend.

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I have been to see Channel and can agree that the prices asked are absolutely incredibly high (to the point of being absurd). Had a similar experience as OP where the price stated, according to her, did not include the "standard tip" which seems quite odd to me.
Other than that she was quite a nice girl and very attractive. However I will not be repeating.

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Sounds shady as f**k. Pretty soon those 2 might not be getting any business. I have no idea if I'm just lucky and am having mostly good experiences. Maybe it's the simplicity and ease of what I like and what works for me. I wish I could inform everyone of bad experience(s) but asides from shitty showerhead quality, certain crammed rooms or rarely slippery shower floors at some locations, I got nothing.

Thanks for the info. I would be so pissed about that if I ended up in that situation.

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Actually, the showers at blue one will always likely be slippery unless they replace the base or put down some kind of anti-slip covering.

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This was the first time I've ever really had a terrible time there. Sure I've had some rushed services but this is the only time I felt like I was being taken advantage of. That's why I think it's just a few bad apples as I've had a great time with Erica, Juno, Carmine and plenty others that have long since retired.

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Those attendants that you listed, I fully believe that they know how to build goodwill and understand the concept of establishing a client base for repeat visits. As I'm not a female, and I've never worked in this business, I speculate that it just seems like you can't make a proper living(long-term) without having that base of repeat clients.

Maybe for a while when first starting out an attendant can survive on a groups of random visit clientele in a new city/parlour environment but when push comes to shove, and it has taken an attendant long enough to cycle through all potential clients and they've pissed them all off in some way, they're usually left with nothing.

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Fully agree on that as this is a very customer service focused industry where reputation can make or break someone. The ones that last past the new girl phase tend to be the ones who provide good service and a connection of some kind to their clients.

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I haven’t been to the parlours in years but previously I’d pay the door fee and then in the room I’d discuss options and tip accordingly. We’re you expected to pay the door fee a second time or do you not pay the door fee when entering the parlour and pay this in the room

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I’d add mystique to the do not see list.
Wanted a expected tip of $200 for basic massage on top of the door fee. Prices went sky high from there.
More of a dominatrix than a masseuse however she is open about this after she takes off her clothes. Not a great thing unless your into that.
Also very rushed. Booked a 1 hr massage and she rushed it through to get it over with and get me out the door in just over a half hour.
Complete rip off
Will not be making a return visit.

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The standard according to the website is that you pay the door fee and then tip whatever the door fee was as a minimum.
The way the 2 girls being discussed are doing it is that they quote a high amount and then say "Oh but that doesn't include the normal tip" so they expect you to pay the door fee again in addition to the tip they quoted. It's just a weird way to do it and a bit off putting.

They should just have one number $X so when a client agrees they're not surprised and annoyed when it's suddenly $X+door fee again

If that makes sense lol

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Yup that is exactly what happened, though it wasn't until after the massage was concluded and I was leaving that this additional fee was mentioned. If it would have been brought up at the start, there's no way I would have paid $130 just for touching.

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That's a big yikes. $200 to start?!

I paid less than that and still got way more (i.e., the most one can get). And this was just last week. And this was for an hour.

Not from Mystique, though. I wouldn't visit her anyway even if I hadn't seen that bad review - her pictures just don't look appealing to me at all.

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From the impressions that I'm getting with at least some of the visits it seems like the complete service was already rendered and then money was asked for and given at the end. You can always PM me and fully explain if I don't have it right.

In scenario one if services were already rendered, and these exorbitant sums were asked for at the end, I would have just said that I don't go for extortion. I probably would have laughed a lot as well. Here's your fair tip for the type of services rendered and I'd be on my way. They can't take back the service. In scenario 2 if these prices were brought up upon the flip over when you start getting a chest massage then that's different. You have to try to think smart and let common sense and reason take hold.

If it was scenario #1, I wouldn't care if there was arguing or screaming at the end. I would have just yelled about how much of an extortionist an attendant was if I was getting any lip. Make it well known to all of those in the establishment. Yell it all through my way out. I'd take the risk of even potentially get banned. Or even if it meant I could only go in on days when a certain attendant wasn't there. Or go to a different location, no sweat.

If push came to shove in the room, and scenario #2 played out, I'd just say "no, I'm good". Finish with just a regular plain jane massage from start to finish. Pay the basic tip and never see that attendant ever again.

Life's too short to take s**t. I deal with enough bulls**t elsewhere in my life. I'm definitely not going to deal with it at the parlours. Luckily I never have and everything for the last 7+ years has been top-notch.

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Nowhere are the use of force or threats mentioned. Asking for a fee for a service is NOT extortion. And if you do not ask what the fee is before you get a service you absolutely should pay the amount requested. Just like any other business. If you get a product or a service without clarifying the price you are not the one who decides on the price. If you don’t like the fee you don’t get the service. That’s pretty simple. Threatening to yell and scream is silly and juvenile. Just my opinion.

Tipper

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It was all I could do to contain my laughter... couldn’t believe anyone thinks the basic tip should be $200 for the hour.

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Okay, maybe extortion is too harsh of a word. Extortion usually involves blackmail, duress, undue influence and the like. Let's call it "soft extortion" or "extortion lite".

I don't know what kind of fantasy land some people are living in but $200 for basic service for an hour, and especially if it was for a half hour is completely
unreasonable and "extortion lite" through and through. Maybe some of us are wiping their a**es with hundred dollar bills. I know I can't afford to do that.

I know all the facts aren't known, and that there could be more to all of these incidents, but I'm going to take things at their typed word for now.
Even if an attendant tries to pre-negotiate it before it gets to the next step, $200 can at best be called a "wildly and stupidly excessive ask" for basic service. $130 on top of the $50 standard tip is at best an "excessive ask" for certain plus service(s) especially if it was made to sound like that "plus" service was supposed to be $130 all-in and not $130 plus an additional $50.

An attendant better be smart enough to bring up something like that first so I can respectfully and outright refuse it and go on about my day. I'm sorry but if an attendant tried to rope me at the end for a $200 tip for something that should only cost a $90-$100 tip, they crossed the line of decency first and their behaviour and how they'd handle my outright refusal to give anything other than $90-$100 would dictate how I'd act next.

Free market and capitalism works in that I'm an informed
consumer. I'm informed about a price beforehand(like I should always be) and if I don't like, I leave quietly and go on to the next. Or in this case I just get a really really basic plain body rub, give the minimum tip for the time so as to not be any trouble and go on about my day. Never see that attendant ever again.

If they act respectfully and keep calm, I then act respectfully and keep calm. I would only act in kind about the informing of "extortion lite" if an attendant got argumentative and didn't like my stance and/or wouldn't let let me leave. Is it juvenile and childish, sure. Sometimes you have to act like a child with those that act childish toward you first because that's all they understand. Eye for an eye. DGAF.

Although it may not seem like it from this rant I do prefer the calm,
reasonable and respectful route to resolution. I just don't lie down and give in to the B.S.

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Extortion lite ? Just a tiny, little, teency weency bit dramatic, don’t you think ? It’s called overcharging and you refuse the service and go about your way. If you don’t refuse then you are agreeing to pay their price. I choose to not receive the service in that situation.
When you drive up to a gas station and note the price of gas you can’t pump your gas then refuse to pay that price. You accept the price or you get a bus pass.
If you started screaming and yelling and interrupted my massage I wouldn’t be sympathetic at all, I would be pissed. I would want the parlour to forcibly remove you. If you wanted you could even call the police, which would be rather amusing.
“Excuse me officer, they are overcharging for extras” !
The funny thing is, this is all hypothetical. You haven’t done this and apparently haven’t had to. All of us plan on being heroes if the situation arises. But most of us put our tail between our legs and run away.

Tipper

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And there's always the option to voice excessive tip requests to the management, Christine. Not certain how often she checks this board but you can message her here.

LTO_3

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The Nordic model places all power to dictate price/terms in the hands of the parlour attendants. Whether this is right or wrong does not matter. From what I understand of the new law, there’s not a thing a parlour owner or client can do about an individual woman’s choice/activity in the room.
It has been against the law since 2014.

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No one's disputing the ladies can set their prices, that's not the issue being discussed. The concern is when someone says, well after the fact, they want X amount of money for their tip on top of the basic tip.
That's like telling a restaurant customer, they have to pay 75% tip on top of the 20% tip. Tell me that and I'll leave you nothing and never come back.

LTO_3

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I understand what you’re saying LTO, but it still constitutes a breach of law for anyone to interfere with the exchange because the exchange itself is against the law for everyone but the woman involved. Again, not saying it’s right or wrong, just saying that this is the law that Canada decided to implement when they threw away the old Terri-Lynn Bedford freedoms. A man or a woman in a position of ‘purchaser’ or ‘benefitting from’ has very little recourse under the current legislation.
I would be wary of ‘getting into it’ with anyone very intensely, though of course, I’m all in favour of good will between the genders:)

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Sexy AF and brains.
You are dangerous.

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I’m here often and read pretty much everything.. when I see bad reviews I actually show the girls them to hopefully educate them, and I try my best to tell them what works n doesn’t to do with tip wise in order for them to be a better attendant but ultimately it’s really is up to them. If they charge to much they don’t gain regulars and will probably be shown the door if they continue to be horrible attendants.

With that being said,, anyone can message me directly about an attendant if they want to discuss it privately

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Actually completely different from the restaurant comparison. What you’re referring to as a “tip” is not the same thing as a restaurant “tip”. In a restaurant the tip is over and above what you pay for a product/service. In a parlour the “tip” is what you’re actually paying for a product/service. You could also “tip” in over and above that amount in the traditional sense of a tip.

Tipper

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Gotta say, I love your posts Tipper.
:smile::smile::smile:

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Tipper explains that a Tip is not a Tip. Next he will be trying to convince us that a Massage is not a Massage !

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Which takes on a whole new meaning when you use the phrase "giving her just the tip". :snickering:

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You’re smarter than the average bear.
From the rumours I hear you’re also older than the average bear.

Tipper

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I do understand that. I'm just saying when the attendant is saying "I want this much of a tip" on top of the standard tip, that's what concerns me.

LTO_3

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There is really no standard tip other than the basic. They can charge what that wish and you can decide to pay or not pay, but you can’t decide what you should pay.

Tipper

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I'm sure the site has not been updated in a while but directly from the website:

As important as it is to know what a respectful gratuity is, we feel knowing what an excessive gratuity expectation from an Attendant is just as important. Excessive gratuities, pushing menu’s, [or a] rushed service is detrimental to the client’s experience and the business as a whole. For all involved, you the client, the company, and the Attendants, lose out on future opportunities because of a bad experience a client had with a greedy or impatient Attendant. In recent years, there has been an increase of Attendants taking advantage of the confidentiality of the massage rooms and the change of the solicitation laws to levy unrealistic expectations on our clients for the value of their additional services not mandated or regulated by the business.

Prospectively, taking into account the entire spectrum of the Adult Entertainment Industry and the average values of live entertainment services, we recommend the following guidance for gratuities, per attendant; gratuities for a body-rub massage have long been customary to be in the range of the service purchased. All additional services performed by attendants, we recommend a more then reasonable maximum gratuity of $150 for 30min and $200 for 60min services.

End quote from website:

Inflation: I know recently I have been paying up to $300 for the best premium coffee. If I enjoy the coffee then great I'm fine with that amount. If not, then I try a different attendant.

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So you are paying $300 plus the room fee?

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I 'have', yes.

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I’ve paid $350. Damn she was worth it. Tattoos are like artwork and worth every penny you gotta pay

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It’s just money. You can just go out and make more. Everyone knows that.
So you pay extra for tattoos ?

Tipper

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Dear god, I need to start charging guys for membership here. lmao
:money:

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There’s nothing left. We spend it all at the massage parlours. On the positive our muscles are very relaxed.